Re: bjewell@twics.com

["Russell Starkey" <russtar@hotmail.com>]

From: "sjm" <sten@neosoft.com>
>To: "Russell Starkey" <russtar@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: bjewell@twics.com
>Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:27:17 -0500
>
>
>Sorry you feel that way, but arguments such as yours are commonly
>used to justify oppression all over the globe.  South Africa had the
>"culture" of apartheid.  China has the "culture" of torturing its
>prisoners.  So I don't see "it's their culture" as a valid argument
>at all.  It used to be part of Western culture to own slaves.  Aren't
>we glad we got rid of that cultural artifact?
>
>Sten
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Starkey <russtar@hotmail.com>
>To: sumo@brooks.statgen.ncsu.edu <sumo@brooks.statgen.ncsu.edu>
>Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 3:20 AM
>Subject: Re: bjewell@twics.com
>
>
> >It is a sad but true comment on Western culture that too many of us don't
> >seem to be able to see other cultures from the point of veiw of the 
>people
> >who live in them rather than veiwing other cultures and traditions as
> >somehow "wrong" because they differ from our own.
> >
> >I veiw your statement as almost as bad a slur as the one about Manny
> >Yarbrough that was posted last week.
> >
> >The more I read some of the comment that appear on this ML the more I 
>find
> >myself just shaking my head in wonderment.
> >
> >Russ
> >
> >
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There was a posting last week that I seem to be the only
one, other than the author, who has read it.

It spoke of the societies that have "two cultures" a men's culture and a 
women's culture. As far as my experience has shown me, these societies 
appear to be in the majority. As a native born American I think that is also 
the case here. If you would ask the woman on the street I am sure she would 
not want men in her sewing circle or at a bridal shower just to use two 
mundane examples (that are, none the less, the cultural norm).

This restriction that you express such displeasure with; is it because it is 
MEN who are doing it. Why is it a cruel thing when men want to have a guy 
thing when there are innumerable things that women do that they would not 
DREAM of including men in?



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