RE: Hinkaku

[Roxanne Pierce <rpierce@r2systems.com>]

It was my experience while living in Hawaii during my junior high and high 
school years (1969 - 1976) that fluent pidgin as spoken by young men (i.e., 
less than 25 - 30 years old) naturally and normally included much swearing, 
most especially motherfucker, although normally that word comes out in pidgin 
with only about two more-or-less distinct syllables instead of the four 
syllables you'd think it should have.

Therefore, I don't think that the concept of "crude" should apply when 
Musashimaru speaks in pidgin (including swear words) to Konishiki or any other 
fluent pidgin-speaker.  They're speaking another language.

Roxanne Pierce
R2 Systems, San Diego
mailto:rpierce@r2systems.com

On Wednesday, December 10, 1997 10:50, Jon Sandridge [SMTP:jsand@niko.unl.edu] 
wrote:
> My father-in-law occasionally sends me videos of game shows featuring the
> rikishi, and Musashimaru is constantly calling people motherfucker and so
> forth, and when he's gabbing with Konishiki he's pretty crude.  Of course, I
> assume none of this is ever quoted, if even noticed, by the Japanese press,
> but I certainly was surprised.   Konishiki certainly goofs around on those 
things,
> but he never seemed to be making fun of anyone or being mean.  Maru, however,
> comes across as rather obnoxious.

> > David Turkington wrote more than this:
>
> > My question. I've never seen Musashimaru do anything undignified, nor heard
> > of him being quoted as having said something improper. What are people's
> > perceptions of him? What does the Kyokai think?
> >