Re: Another flame war?

[David Craven <djcraven@netcom.com>]

There is an easy solution to this, append the warning to the end of your 
message similar to my PSA and make the primary message relavant to the 
the topic. 

For example, in this message I am going to talk about my first exposure 
to Sumo.  I first was exposed to Sumo while growing up in hHawaii and 
watching sumo on channel 13.  The first few times I watched it was sith 
the sort of fascination one reserves for car crashes, Roller Derby and 
Professional Wrestling, particularly the latter two which were very 
active in Hawaii at that time at the old Civic Arena with Jimmy Blears' 
father running the show.  Soon, however, I began to see that SUmo had a 
much greater depth to it, and the watching of Sumo became a diferent type 
of fascination.  I know I was not alone, as in Boyscouts we would stage 
unorganized Sumo Tournements.  Then, when I went off to college I lost 
touch with Sumo.  In recent years my kownledge of SUmo has again 
reimerged, in part becuase I do a good deal of business with Japan and it 
represents a good area of discussion with my clients (althought they seem 
to prefer to talk about the Bears or the Cubs).  The Sumo list, with the 
exception of the occasional flame has been valuable and I appreciate it.  
Thanks 

djcraven@netcom.com (David Craven) who believes what he hears:
  "And I am right, And you are right, And all is right as right can be!" 
 "I'm really very sorry for you all, but it's an unjust world, and virtue 
is triumphant only in theatrical performances."

PSA - Bicycles are vehicles too.  Rule of the Road #1.  If you are riding 
a bicycle, stop at the stop lights and wait for them to change.




On Sat, 10 Jun 1995, Gunnar Jeschke wrote:

> The last one was Tom, so I refer to him:
> 
> >I'd like to thank Masumiriki for his early alert to the PKUNZIP 
> >virus.   I passed the word to our systems people, and they were certainly 
> >appreciative.   This is evidently a genuine virus, and worthy of respect 
> >from all in the computer community.
> 
> >> >knowing that information and getting it quickly is
> >> >important to me.  Thank you for posting that information Mr. Abe.
> >> 
> >> The point is, THIS IS A SUMO MAILING LIST. 
> >> 
> >> I can't believe you're defending a post about a computer virus on a sumo
> >> list but I have a feeling you won't be the last one. Reasonable, related
> >> drift is expected. Off-topic messages are a waste of everyone's time.
> 
> >Abe Sensei is a true member of the Budo family, and as such takes his Sumo 
> >seriously, and his concern for community safety SERIOUSLY.   My colleages 
> >and I were very much helped by Abe Sensei's QUICK ALERT on everyone's behalf.
> 
> >I can't believe anyone can possibly take offense at this helpful and 
> >loving act of support for all Sumo friends on the net.
> 
> >Thank you, Abe Sensei, for your wonderful deed, and please do not 
> >hesitate to continue to do every good deed your heart commands you to do.
> 
> >Please never worry about petty and small-minded persons who cannot take 
> >kindly actions at face value and let it go at that....  or who expect 
> >that Sumo will not inform and support the other dimensions of life.
> 
> I beg for mercy since I can't see the sumo list fall apart about such fights
> and I enjoy  b o t h  Abe-san's and Shari's posts. If I remember right it was
> you Shari, who tried to prevent the Totoro-Kawika war that cost us David Meisen-
> zahl's contributions. In this instance I also like Totoro's contributions and
> I had fun reading Kawika's. So I think your remark about Abe-san's virus posting
> was also somewhat hard (and to fall back to one of the Easterner-Westerner 
> stereotypes it may feel even harder for a Japanese) although I agree in
> principle with your opinion that there are other places to find out about virus
> information and that these should be used.
> 
> Tom shot back with even more firepower ("petty and small-minded persons", I 
> beg you!- not even with a smiley attached). It's pretty obvious what will happen
> if all of you don't try to keep peace between basho. I know it's a hard and
> boring time ;-), but IMHO flame wars are not the appropriate thing to fill the 
> gap.
> 
> So please excuse me for my long mail which is also technically off-topic :-)
> And no worry I can stand flames, but if possible keep them off the list and
> send them directly to my private address (which doesn't mean that I would
> mind disagreeing opinions to this post on the list).
> 
> Gunnar 
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