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3-Way Ties (fwd)
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- Subject: 3-Way Ties (fwd)
- From: kimata@zeppelin.convex.com (Hiroki Kimata)
- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 10:29:40 -0500
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- In-reply-to: "Martin Hughes (Biochem)"'s message of Tue, 27 Jul 1993 13:29:53 +0100 (BST) <Pine.3.05.9307271351.C4933-b100000@mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 13:29:53 +0100 (BST)
From: "Martin Hughes (Biochem)" <mjgh@mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk>
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> From: Lee Tokuda <tokuda@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu>
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> I read that in the 3-way tie between Akebono, Takanohana, and Wakanohana
> the order in which the rikshi wrestled was determined by pulling marked
> sticks. But I also read that the sticks only determined which of the
> two brothers would face Akebono first. In other words, the tie-breaker
> was set up so that the brothers could not face each other in the first
> match. Could someone else confirm this?
> If that's true, I would like to know if this procedure was arbitrary
> or if there is some kind of rule about rikshi from the same stable in
> 3 or 4 way ties. Anyone have any info on this?
On TV, I saw Akebono,Waka, and Taka pulling the marked sticks simultaniously.
So I don't think that's true.
Although I cannot confirm or deny any of this, I seem to remember
someone doing a very professional mathematical/statistical job
in s.c.j. when the same subject came up for discussion. (was
that anyone who is in this group?) One of the things I think
I remembered was that whoever went first, had a much greater
(statistical) advantage. Maybe this advantage is given by right
to the highest ranking rikishi, so as to increase the chance of
him winning. The other 2 then being given an equal "chance"
to get in the 1st match.
Just a thought?
Recently, the same discussion was going on in fj.rec.sports,
and the concensus was both two rikishis who have the first match
have 5/14 chance of win, while third rikishi has 4/14.
This calculation seems a bit complicated for me who is definitely
not math expert.
Is there any sumo loving mathematician who can help in this ML?
>
> -Lee
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Hiroki