RE: [sumo] Statistical question

["Nitschke, Alexander" <alexander.nitschke@lpfv.de>]

I think Takayama only included rikishi with hatsu dohyo from 1958
onwards since this was the first year with 6 basho. Taiho's hatsu dohyo
was Aki 1956, but he should be included in this list as he was in Juryo
first Natsu 1959. Then he needed 15 basho until Yokozuna promotion,
equalling Asashoryu. And what's more, back then Juryo and Makuuchi were
way bigger, so Taiho had to cross more ranks. For example, Asashoryu
started Juryo as J7e, Taiho as J20w. So Asashoryu's Juryo career was
done with 9-6 and 11-4. Taiho needed 9-6, 9-6 (getting to J10e), 13-2
and 13-2 to get to Makuuchi, so essentially he needed two basho less
than Asashoryu. The career record from Juryo to Ozeki also is telling (I
also included Kashiwado with Juryo debut in 1957 Kyushu):

Taiho      74.7%  168-57    (15 basho)
Asashoryu  68.0%  153-72    (15)
Futahaguro 68.8%  163-74    (16)
Akebono    64.3%  164-91-15 (18)
Wajima     67.7%  193-92    (19)
Kitanoumi  59.0%  177-123   (20)
Kashiwado  67.2%  242-118   (24)
Takanohana 68.0%  316-149   (31)

--
Doitsuyama


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu 
> [mailto:owner-sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu] On Behalf Of 
> thierry.perran@club-internet.fr
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:14 AM
> To: sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu
> Subject: Re: FW: [sumo] Statistical question
> 
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> Sorry, but your answer was not 100% correct. Asashoryu still 
> got the fastest rise from juryo to yokozuna, but he did it in 
> 15 basho and not in 13 basho.
> 
> Here is the top 10, regarding the rise from Juryo to 
> yokozuna, thanks to Takayama's great website ( 
> http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~sumo/rec/06.htm#57 ) :
> 
> 1. Asashoryu in 15 basho
> 2. Futagahuro in 16 basho (Yep, this guy was terrific !)
> 3. Akebono in 18 basho
> 4. Wajima in 19 basho
> 5. Kitanoumi in 20 basho
> 6. Hokutoumi in 26 basho
> 7. Wakanohana II in 30 basho
> 8. Takanohana in 31 basho
> 9. Onokuni in 34 basho
> 10. Tamanoumi in 39 basho
> 
> Sincere salutations,
> Thierry aka Chienoshima
> 
> ----Message d'origine----
> >De: "khish sosor" <khishgee@gmx.net>
> >A: "Benchsumo" <sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu>
> >Sujet: FW: [sumo] Statistical question
> >Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:33:36 +0800
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: khish sosor [mailto:khishgee@gmx.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:32 PM
> >To: 'emmett.wayne@us.army.mil'
> >Subject: RE: [sumo] Statistical question
> >
> >Of course, the great Asashoryu spend 13 bashos from Juryo to 
> Yokozuna.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu 
> [mailto:owner-sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu] 
> >On Behalf Of Emmett 
> Wayne
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:17 PM
> >To: sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu
> >Subject: [sumo] Statistical question
> >
> >Question:
> >
> >What is the fastest rise of a Yokozuna from his beginning in 
> Juryo?  In 
> >other words, how many bashos did it take from their Juryo debut to 
> >their promotion to Yokozuna?
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Torideyama
> >S4 Kantosho Winner
> >Nagoya 2004
> >
> >
> >[EndPost by Emmett Wayne <emmett.wayne@us.army.mil>]
> >
> >[EndPost by "khish sosor" <khishgee@gmx.net>]
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [EndPost by thierry.perran@club-internet.fr]
> 

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