Re: [sumo] Shikona kanji meaning

[Ian Darrow <ginnosho@yahoo.com>]

Minna;

Just a speculation, but the "dishonorable" or "self-depreciating"
meaning *could* refer to the wry recognition that battle and martial
pursuits are ultimately ones of destruction rather than those arts of
creating, like artists/artisans, cha-dou, etc.  In my own experience,
this is typical of the enlightened samurai aesthetic, not to mention
the usual Japanese practice of self-deprecation.  (Like the neighbour
that gives you some cookies, saying, "These are probably bad, but
please accept some of my cookies.")  ^_^  Well, maybe it's a stretch...

Ian

--- "Joshua A. Reyer" <circlejar@comcast.net> wrote:

> ShiroiKuma wrote:
> 
> >Hi:
> >
> >I looked up the word "shikona" in a dictionary and found out that
> it's 
> >written as å??è?¡å?? usually, however the only spelling that Koujien
> has is é??å?? 
> >i.e. composed of kanji for "ignoble/dishonorable" and "name".
> >
> >Well, shikona is a battle name, so I've thought that it was
> something on the 
> >other side, i.e. a noble name of sorts. So where would the
> historical reason 
> >for it to be a "dishonorable name" lie? Could it stem from the part
> of 
> >history where sumou was basically a rough duel for spectators in the
> streets 
> >of Japanese cities, carried out by rounin and such, i.e. not a very
> noble 
> >occupation?
> >
> >Anyone know?
> >
> >Later,
> >
> >ShiroiKuma
> >
> 
> A glossary provided in the January issue of Ozumou magazine has this:
> 
>
ã??ã??ã?ªã??ï¼»é??å??ï¼½ã??å??士å??ã??ã??ã?·ã?³ï¼?é??ï¼?ã?¯è?ªå??ã??å??ä¸?ã??ã??æ??å?³ã?®ã?»ã??ã??å?¤ä»£ã?«
> 
> ã?¯ã??å¼·ã??ã?¨ã??ã??æ??å?³ã??å?«ã?¾ã??ã?¦ã??ã??ã??
> 
> shikona - Rikishi name.  In addition to a self-deprecating meaning,
> in 
> ancient times "shiko" also meant "strong".
> 
> Josh Reyer
> 
> 
> [EndPost by "Joshua A. Reyer" <circlejar@comcast.net>]
> 



		
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