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Re: [sumo] Asashoryu in NYC photos



I will add ,that i think Doreen is trying to thinly clad a poor position in any type of credibility.
"Saying that a rikishi is not a wrestler is like saying a ford is not a car."said Doreen.
That would depend.A Ford truck clearly is not a car.A Ford tractor clearly is not a car.
To leave the Ford part out,a motorbike is clearly not a car too.
To look at it a little differently,you could be trying to apply the term rikishi to anybody who grapples. Why aren`t you?
Wrong is wrong.
Very simple.



From: "Stephan Dulka" <dulka@alpha.ocn.ne.jp>
To: Knut Högvall <knutte@bigfoot.com>,   <sumo@statgen.ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: [sumo] Asashoryu in NYC photos
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:42:55 +0900

>
> > If you refer to a rikishi as a wrestler you are wrong.
>
> I don't agree. There is freestyle wrestling, greco-roman wrestling, Korean
wrestling, Mongolian wrestling, sumo wrestling, Nordic wrestling, etc,
etc... And a rikishi is just a certain type of wrestler, i.e. a wrestler who
practices the traditional Japanese style of wrestling, which is called sumo
or ozumo.
>
> I refer to Doreen's posting, as I think she hit the nail on the head,
there.
>
> Saying that a rikishi is not a wrestler is like saying that a Ford is not
a car.
>
> > Simple, isn't it?
>
> Yup.
>
> - Heiyu


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Yup, it's very simple, and that's why you are WRONG. The KYOKAI and the
RIKISHI want to DISTANCE themselves from PURO RESU. They don't want to be
called 'wrestlers'. They are, but they don't want to be called that. Call it
pride, call it stubbornness, call it whatever. I think they're entertainers,
kings of the night, trenchermen, gamblers, wenchers, great guys, determined
and lots of other things. But they are not what YOU PEOPLE think they are!


Go ahead. Go up to a RIKISHI. Call him a wrestler. Then call for help.

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