Re: Sansho winner (was: Brown Happicoat Folks)

[Doreen Simmons <jz8d-smmn@asahi-net.or.jp>]

At 7:44 AM +0900 4/1/02, TAKAYAMA Kazuhisa wrote:
>Dewanohana. His grip was much the same as Hokuten'yu's.

Oh, how I agree! When the 3rd Dewanohana got a maemitsu (hand on the front 
of the belt) grip with his right hand, there were very few men who could 
avoid a yorikiri.

>As far as I know, the Nichidai rikishi who entered sumo-beya as
>follows (asterisk means that he made his debut with tukedasi):

Many thanks for this list. I have been so busy today that I have had no 
time to check it against my own list which has men from all universities 
listed chronologically.

>Debut    Realname(typical sikona) Heya
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>1967.09  Yokoyama                 Dewanoumi
>Note:In previous mail I suggested that "with tukedasi" should be added
>because I had known this guy who is the son of the 33th yokoduna
>Musasiyama.

This is news to me! How fascinating! Am I right in assuming that he never 
made it to sekitori rank, since he is not listed otherwise? I had been told 
that Dewanohana 3 was the first Nichidai man to go to a heya not in the 
Hanakago group (which creamed off the best because that early Hanakago 
oyakata was training the Nichidai Sumo Club). Can you enlighten me (on list 
or privately) on how you know about this connection?

In the case of the most recent Dewanohana, he joined Dewanoumi-beya because 
his uncle, the 2nd  Dewanohana, had already been there; he got up to 
maegashira 13. If my information is correct, the first man to bear the name 
of Dewanohana  later became Dewanoumi  oyakata (last but two)  and later 
Musashigawa oyakata. A strong link is also possession of the Dekiyama 
myoseki; the 33rd yokozuna held it; so did Dewanohana 2, and now his nephew 
has it too. In between times there was a very charming old man, now dead, 
and I don't recall his shikona offhand. I have often met the present 
Dekiyama's uncle, Dewanohana 2,  at heya and koenkai parties.

Best,

~Doreen Simmons
      <jz8d-smmn@asahi-net.or.jp>~