Re: Yaocho - whose fault is it really?

[Achim Pawelczyk <achimp@herten.de>]

After the first  press conference it was reported that Itai had named
between 15 and 20 present rikishi (papers web pages had different numbers).
Did he name them at that press conference or only in the tabloids ?
If actually in the press conference, Abe-sans first post was right even more.

Frome the second press conference some more names are reported, e.g.
Takamiyama.
This Kyushu 1989 Kotonishiki bout is one of the alleged yaocho bouts:

http://www.xusxus.com/top/top2000020306.html
-http://www.xusxus.com/top/image/2000020306sumo.jpg

picture from the 2nd press conference
http://www.zakzak.co.jp/spo/s-2000_02/s2000020211.html
-http://www.zakzak.co.jp/spo/s-2000_02/image/s2000020211itai.jpg


With this thread continuing, the term yaocho gets used here for more and
more types of bad sumo, without connection to what Itai and his late
oyakata allegedly wanted to point out.

With that broad use of the term "yaocho", Wakanohana in his 7-8 performance
must be accused of yaocho for half of the basho. 

What category of yaocho would we use for henka ?

What if mostly the so called "great bouts" are actually yaocho and only the
boring ones are for real ?


At 11:17 05.02.00 +0200, Moti-kun wrote:
>
>Masumi Abe wrote:
>
>> Seems like at least some of the members didn't read the post I wrote as "my
>> previous post" which corrected my first post about this issue. This is
the one
>> I corrected my original post after Doreen posted that Itai did not mention
>> anything about the list of 17 rikishi. This is not for telling the ML
that my
>> first post was right, but to proof that I followed with my correction.
And this
>> is the post I mentioned as "my previous post".
>>
>> -Toshiyori Masumiriki
>>
>> -----------------
>
>A. All I said was that the naming of names was not DURING the press
conference, and
>I DID read the second post. What seemed to me is that other members had
misread
>those posts and believed the 17 rikishis were named at the press
conference, which
>simply isn't true.

Akinomaki

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