Re: Itai on CNN

["Da Kine Sumo E-zine & Web site from Kawika" <dakinesumo@hotmail.com>]

Have you even met a yakazu?

Have you ever gambled in Japan?

Have you ever spoken to an actual sumo wrestler about yaocho?

Come on, who is being naive?

My neighbors for 5 years was Hasegawa-gumi.  Their main interests were 
drugs, loans, guns, woman, etc., and sure they might have supported a heya 
or two, more for prestige than to rig the outcome of sumo bouts.  Not to say 
they are not into gambling but for big stakes like keiba.

Bout fixing is a form of a) making pocket money and b) exchanging favors.  
Itai did not mention anything about fixing bouts for the 'mafia'.  Please.

I value your opinion, but IMHO, it totally fantasy dude!

Please next time consider using the tag [joke] on your next post. ;-)

From: "RJ Friedman" <rjf@comasia.com>
>Reply-To: "RJ Friedman" <rjf@comasia.com>
>To: "Da Kine Sumo E-zine & Web site from Kawika" <dakinesumo@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Itai on CNN
>Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:20:21 -0500 (EST)
>
>On Thu, 03 Feb 2000 03:46:00 GMT, Da Kine Sumo E-zine & Web site from
>Kawika wrote:
>
> >>Can't, technically, a rikishi only know about his own yaocho as well as 
>the
> >>yaocho of whoever he's yaochoing with?  I mean if it is arranged, then
> >>presumably both parties know it.  Unless the loser loses on purpose and 
>the
> >>winner thinks it was a fair bout, but there would seem to be little 
>point
> >>in doing that.
>
> >Agreed, it takes two to yaocho.
>
>You guys are both SOOO naive.  :-)
>
>Let us not forget that in any sporting event where there is "mafia"
>money involved, and gambling involved there are always fixes. This is
>behavior that is as old as time itself.
>
>And it certainly does *not* take two to yaocho - all it takes is one
>person being paid off to make sure he loses - his opponent can be
>entirely unaware of what is going on. Throwing a match because you
>get paid to do it happens all the time in every single sport under
>the sun.
>
>Sumo, for all its supposedly "spiritual" side, is no different. Where
>there is mob money and gambling involved, there will always be fixed
>matches. I like sumo as much as any of you - but let's not be totally
>naive, here.
>
>
>

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