RE: Further info on tegatana and hand gestures after winning a bout

["Da Kine Sumo E-zine & Web site from Kawika" <dakinesumo@hotmail.com>]

Yeah, I will take the word of someone who was in sumo oppose to someone on 
an ML, sorry, you are wrong on this one.  The hand gesture is kokoro, ask 
any sumotori/sekitori you know, it is a four stroke gesture, stroke order 
aside, heck I learned it from Ozora, when he was in sumo as Akebono's 
tsukebito, 7 years ago.

Regarding the chomage matter, I was wrong and I quoted Doreen, not Yamato on 
that one.


From: "Joshua A. Reyer" <jreyer@grn.mmtr.or.jp>
>To: "Da Kine Sumo E-zine & Web site from Kawika" 
><dakinesumo@hotmail.com>,<sumo@brooks.statgen.ncsu.edu>
>Subject: RE: Further info on tegatana and hand gestures after winning a 
>bout
>Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:16:00 +0900
>
> > Just got off the phone with ex-sekitori Yamato, he confirms that the 
>hand
> > gesture that a sekitori makes when receiving the white envelope of 
>money,
> > after a win, when it is offered, is the Chinese/Japanese character for
> > 'heart' or in Japanese, 'kokoro'.  He noted that you might think it is 3
> > strokes instead of 4 strokes because some sekitori use the 4 stroke to
> > simply take the money envelope.
>
>Did my previous post on this get oshi-dashi'd or something?  The kokoro
>theory still doesn't work because the tegatana gesture does not follow the
>stroke order for kokoro.  Furthermore, Tokitukaze Rijicho (former Yokozuna
>Futabayama) regulated the gesture to three cuts (left, right, middle) in
>1966.  I've seen rikishi fluff the third middle cut into a grab for the
>money, but there's simply no fourth stroke.  The tegatana gesture 
>represents
>three gods, Ame-no-Minakanushi-no-kami, Takamimusubi-no-kami, and
>Kamimusubi-no-kami.
>
>I don't know why Yamato was told that it is kokoro, but I also remember him
>being wrong on the chon-mage matter, as well.
>
> > Oh yeah, Yamato is the father of a newly born baby boy, just this
> > morning!
> > Congratulations to Yamato!!!!!
>
>I'll second that.
>
>Josh Reyer
>

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